Guess the breed...

painted ponies · Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:15 pm Post subject:

When I originally saw him I guessed morgan, but he is not quite true to that either so maybe a cross. He did come from the Gibbons herd though and his owner believes he originally came from this andalusian breeder which is less than 1/2 hr away from the gibbons herd location.
www.swancreekandalusians.ca/

He would not be a direct son of either of these 2 dilute stallions though because I think they are either too young or too recently imported to be the sire, however he could be from a mare they imported or bred. His owners are busy trying to track down some facts.
After working with him I do think he is either lusitano or andalusian or possibly a cross, nothing else seems to fit. We will likely never know though for sure. He sure is a nice gelding though and quite a scoop!

***His owners have asked me to post these pictures to get opinions...

Gerri · Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:05 pm Post subject:

Is that baby Sunny? (grown up)

painted ponies · Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:23 pm Post subject:

Yes, how do you know him?

Gerri · Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:30 pm Post subject:

I was there when he came off the truck. He was put in a stall area with a hurt foal and boy he didn't want to be there, my hubby and I had to stand in front of the stall to stop him from trying to jump out. (he wanted nothing to do with being near us)

My guess on his breed would be Qh/Draft/walker (very popular with packers,guiders)

Did you get pics of him as a foal from who you got him from?

Nicole&Reannon · Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:27 pm Post subject:

I was going to say draft/walker myself if morgan wasn't it.. he has a very drafty bum and thicker legs, with a walker looking head and neck.

I honestly wouldn't say he is part lusitano/andalusian, he really doesn't look it at all other than his neck. His hind end is way too steep to be even half lusitano, they really tend to throw the shorter, flatter hip with more angulated legs. if he WAS andalusian/lusitano cross, it would probably be with a QH or maybe a walker.

Walkers can be Champagne, so can QH's, Lusitanos do not carry the champagne gene, but they do carry pearl, however it's really rare.

I'd say Gerri's guess is right on the money.

missdit · Dead Broke Joined: 03 Jul 2006 Posts: 963 Location: V.I.

If that's Sunny wouldn't he be 5 this year? And if that is him, if I remember, he had a very faint pinto marking somewhere underneath his belly... I remember sitting beside him shortly after he got off the truck and noticed his marking. Good to see him all grown up! I can't remember who got him first...was it Michelle? And then where?
Ah he's cute. Lots of the Gibbonians I think were from PMU mares, so lots of QH/Draft crossed in the bunch. Daddy could've been anything. Hard to tell his breed, but he's sure grown into a nice looking boy!
Edit: sorry, just went and looked up some of his baby pics and I was wrong, he's coming 4 like you said, looks like he was a late-year baby though. So cute as a baby!!

SarahHanna · Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:29 pm Post subject:

DAMN! Dusty had it goin onnn!

Knight Dreamer · Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:28 am Post subject:

I was looking into this Lusitano stud who is not that far from us..double cream dilute.

http://albertaequine.board-directory.com/standing-stallions-f17/imported-double-cream-dilute-lusitano-at-stud-t51.htm

Their web site
http://www.swancreekandalusians.ca/

painted ponies · Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:05 am Post subject:

He may have a belly spot, hard to tell right now but he does have high stockings.
I don't see any draft in him or Qh really...walker maybe. He is not very heavy built. He is very hairy right now which may make him look heavier than he is. He has a stright forward walk/trot/canter no gait of any kind.

Gerri · Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:31 am Post subject:

Don't know if you have seen this but here's a youtube video of baby Sunny letting off steam.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veYBfvlZyxc

There are some still photos too of him as a foal, I can PM the links to them if you want.

RiosBravo · Dead Broke Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 5712

I was actually thinking Morgan/QH x.

He doesn't look pure of either - but I see a little of both in him. (I'm thinking of the older styled Morgans - not the newer, leaner type)

I don't see much Lusitano or Andalusian in him - his neck is maybe a little like, but the rest of him doesn't look much like to me.

Elaine · Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:12 am Post subject:

Elaine · Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:15 am Post subject:

painted ponies · Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:49 am Post subject:

Cute! Sure, pm me the links and I will forward it all on to sunny's owner

Nicole&Reannon · Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:21 am Post subject:

Walker crosses often do not gait, so I wouldn't rule that out. I've met a lot of the Gibbins gang, and quite a few of them are built similar to him, just different colors LOL. But nice neck set, nice sloping hip and similar face. Some of them I actually could guess might have some Paso in them. They aren't gaited at all, but have the face shape, neck set and hip angles as well. But Walker wouldn't be far off from that either, and probably more likely than Paso LOL

lindsay+lakota<3 · Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:44 pm Post subject:

i was gonna say looking at him he looks like he has some andalusion in him. hes very cute wub

barngirl · IH Tack Sponsor Joined: 12 Dec 2005 Posts: 3533

I thought he could very well have iberian in him. I remember him too when he was a little guy coming off the truck and he turned out really well!
If you look at the links posted, there is one iberian stallion who has a croup that is pretty steep as well. I know it's not the norm, but if he is a mixed breed, which is very likely, he could have gotten the steep croup from the other breed.
He is adorable, no matter which breed he is! wub

Knight Dreamer · Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:10 am Post subject:

Painted ponies....you posted this before me, but I didn't realize you mentioned the same farm until now! Would it be an option for the owners to do a DNA test? I hear it is expensive, but then it would take the guessing out.

Nicole&Reannon · Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:44 am Post subject:

the dd's at swan creek have only been there for a year or two so they couldn't be related to him. The only stallion there that could be is Merlin who doesn't carry cream at all

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